Some of the opinions above are great others well let me be blunt you are trend whores. My favorite part is the fact that people say things like single pivot, and it seems heavier and on and on, if you guys actually read the articles instead of looking at the pictures you would realize that these companies are always trying to improve thier product through wieght, geometry, or an all out new design. I belive that this will be the last time I ever read any of these posts, way to much supidity. whatever happened to just grabing your bike whether it be a bling 09 or an old abused but great bike and just go out shredding.